J-3 Piper Cub ''Hyperion''
J-3 Piper Cub ''Hyperion''
Γεια σας και από μένα αυτό είναι το δικό μου μικρο scale μοντέλο το οποίο πέταξε χτες την πρώτη του πτήση με αρκετά θετικά σχόλια, ευχαριστώ.
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Βλέπω ξύλινη έλικα και το μοτέρ είναι ηλεκτρικό! Δεν έχεις πρόβλημα με τέτοιο μικρό μοτέρ? Δώσε μας λίγα στοιχεία....
Γιώργος
Γιώργος
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Γεια σας παιδια! Εαν ειναι μαμας το set-up, το΄χει φιλος και πεταει τελεια και με δυναμη.
Ειναι το παρακατω Γιωργο !
Ειναι το παρακατω Γιωργο !
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HYPERION TITAN SERIES
Brushless Electronic Motor Controllers
The Titan Brushless Speed controllers are proven winners, with more than 50,000 units sold worldwide since 2003. The current lineup includes 10A to 90A controllers supporting 3S to 12S lithium cells maximum depending on type. NiCd and NiMH are also supported
The newest additions to the range of Hyperion ESC are the "PSB" and "PSW" lineup (see pics below), which all have Switching Power Supply BEC (SBEC) on the controllers. BEC circuits supply power from your main battery pack to the receiver and servos. "Normal" step-down BEC are limited to 3S lithium packs as a maximum if you want to use even 3 servos. But our Cool BEC ESC can power as many as 8 servos, and use main packs up to 6S!
Note that standard Hyperion BEC ESC (not switching BEC), such as the 20A TITAN pictured above left, are appropriate for smaller model airplanes which typically use 4 servos maximum with lithium packs up to 3S in voltage. Hyperion uses powerful BEC chips, and also include a heatsink for those chips which increases time to overload by more than 50% compared to other brands.
Hyperion engineers did extensive radio noise research during the development of the PSB and PSW ESC with switching BEC, and developed the NET design approach (Noise Elimination Technology). Hyperion NET technology is a suite of techniques to eliminate noise and/or move it to a frequency which cannot interfere with your receiver. During worldwide testing, TICOOL showed excellent properties with a wide variety of radio equipment. We include a ferrite bead on the receiver connector, but it has never been required during extensive test flights on all common frequencies and various radio equipment. We suggest range checking with the bead, then remove it and try again. If you find no difference, you may remove it and save a little weight. It is just there as backup, in case your model has some unique problem with setup...
The new 35A PSW (left) is the ultimate ESC for applications such as Trex-450 Class Helicopters, 480-Class EDF Jets, and 3D Aerobatic models. The TITAN WARNING LED system tells you the state of flight pack voltage during the flight, so you aren't caught off guard when auto-cut kicks in (or even allows you to turn auto-cut off entirely). Newer high-performance lithium polymer and A123 batteries have very little capacity remaining at auto-cut time, so TITAN WARNING is a very timely, "bright idea".
The 4A Cool Switching BEC can handle high loads from Digital Servos and Gyro, so it is a natural for helicopters, especially those using digital servos...
And all V3 Firmware ESC are also particularly suited to Helicopters, or models using A123 batteries.
V3 firmware changes include:
*a super-soft 15-second spool when RPM Control (Gov Mode) is enabled, to spare your main gear
*Auto-Cut Cell Voltage settings from 2.0V to 3.2V/cell, to handle lithium including A123 Racing cells
*3.1V/Cell default autocut setting, which is best for powerful 16C+, high-quality lithium polymer packs
*Ability to program NO CUT mode via stick programming (as well as by Emeter or PC Software)
V31 ESC add these features:
* "Gas Mode" selection under RPM Control section. No RPM control is engaged in this case, but spool up on first start is very soft, to spare main gear from damage.
* HV ESC have ACCELERATION DELAY settings added, to avoid stalling motor when throttle is advanced very quickly with large props and high voltage batteries.
All the Hyperion brushless controllers have a rich set of programming features which can be set either by stick commands from your transmitter, via the programming interface in the Hyperion Emeter, or by Hyperion PC Cable and software.
Our ESC processor is a well-proven type, and the software is the result of nearly four years of refinement and testing. The result is extremely smooth motor starts, no matter the motor type, and high efficiency at all throttle positions.
We include a receiver switch (as seen in picture right) on the Titan BEC controllers of 50A and higher. There are times when the battery cannot be immediately disconnected after a flight, or a flight started right after connecting the battery. Especially for larger models, the switch is a safety advantage, as keeping it off insures that no one else on the same frequency will inadvertently start your motor. NOTE: The switch is NOT intended to allow switching off and then back on to fly the model a second time. It in ONLY to keep others from operating your model before you can remove the battery. ALWAYS REMOVE THE BATTERY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AFTER A FLIGHT. BEC switches (all controller brands) cannot disconnect the controller from main flight pack; they only disconnect power to your receiver. While main flight pack is connected to the controller a small current draw always exists, even with BEC switch off. This will cause your battery to completely discharge if left connected, and that will very likely damage the battery.
MANUAL CORRECTION : Due to an early miscommunication with our engineers, TITAN manuals have always stated a max electrical rpm of 100,000 under RPM Control. In fact, the actual electrical rpm are much higher. See test data here.
The Z30 motor test best shows the actual max electrical rpm available with TITAN ESC under RPM Control, and with rpm control OFF.
NOTE: Newer TITAN ESC, such as 12S HV and any ESC with V3 firmware, will require Emeter firmware upgrade installed, in order to program the ESC with Emeter v1. See Emeter v1 firmware updates page HERE
, for latest version firmware.
MANUALS below are in Adobe Acrobat Format
Note: Manuals are for newest versions of TITAN ESC. Your ESC may not have the same specifications or default settings, depending on type of ESC and/or date of purchase.
V31 MANUALS
MANUAL: TITAN 10A to 30A V31 Standard BEC
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 50A and 80A V31 Standard BEC and OPTO
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 35A to 80A V31
PSW
Types (Cool Switching BEC onboard)
MANUAL: TITAN HV V31 85A and 90A 10S and 12S
types
MANUAL: TITAN HV V31 85A and 90A 12S with TI-WARN
V3 MANUALS
MANUAL: TITAN 10A to 80A V3 Standard BEC and OPTO
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 35A V3 PSW3
(Cool Switching BEC, TITAN WARNING LED) V2 MANUALS
MANUAL: TITAN 10A to 80A V2 Standard BEC and OPTO
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 50A and 80A V2 PSB
(Cool Switching BEC onboard)
MANUAL: TITAN HV V2 85A and 90A 10S and 12S
types
See General Guide for Motor/Controller installation here
.
See this page
on programming the Titan with the Hyperion Emeter, or with with the Hyperion PC Software.
Brushless Electronic Motor Controllers
The Titan Brushless Speed controllers are proven winners, with more than 50,000 units sold worldwide since 2003. The current lineup includes 10A to 90A controllers supporting 3S to 12S lithium cells maximum depending on type. NiCd and NiMH are also supported
The newest additions to the range of Hyperion ESC are the "PSB" and "PSW" lineup (see pics below), which all have Switching Power Supply BEC (SBEC) on the controllers. BEC circuits supply power from your main battery pack to the receiver and servos. "Normal" step-down BEC are limited to 3S lithium packs as a maximum if you want to use even 3 servos. But our Cool BEC ESC can power as many as 8 servos, and use main packs up to 6S!
Note that standard Hyperion BEC ESC (not switching BEC), such as the 20A TITAN pictured above left, are appropriate for smaller model airplanes which typically use 4 servos maximum with lithium packs up to 3S in voltage. Hyperion uses powerful BEC chips, and also include a heatsink for those chips which increases time to overload by more than 50% compared to other brands.
Hyperion engineers did extensive radio noise research during the development of the PSB and PSW ESC with switching BEC, and developed the NET design approach (Noise Elimination Technology). Hyperion NET technology is a suite of techniques to eliminate noise and/or move it to a frequency which cannot interfere with your receiver. During worldwide testing, TICOOL showed excellent properties with a wide variety of radio equipment. We include a ferrite bead on the receiver connector, but it has never been required during extensive test flights on all common frequencies and various radio equipment. We suggest range checking with the bead, then remove it and try again. If you find no difference, you may remove it and save a little weight. It is just there as backup, in case your model has some unique problem with setup...
The new 35A PSW (left) is the ultimate ESC for applications such as Trex-450 Class Helicopters, 480-Class EDF Jets, and 3D Aerobatic models. The TITAN WARNING LED system tells you the state of flight pack voltage during the flight, so you aren't caught off guard when auto-cut kicks in (or even allows you to turn auto-cut off entirely). Newer high-performance lithium polymer and A123 batteries have very little capacity remaining at auto-cut time, so TITAN WARNING is a very timely, "bright idea".
The 4A Cool Switching BEC can handle high loads from Digital Servos and Gyro, so it is a natural for helicopters, especially those using digital servos...
And all V3 Firmware ESC are also particularly suited to Helicopters, or models using A123 batteries.
V3 firmware changes include:
*a super-soft 15-second spool when RPM Control (Gov Mode) is enabled, to spare your main gear
*Auto-Cut Cell Voltage settings from 2.0V to 3.2V/cell, to handle lithium including A123 Racing cells
*3.1V/Cell default autocut setting, which is best for powerful 16C+, high-quality lithium polymer packs
*Ability to program NO CUT mode via stick programming (as well as by Emeter or PC Software)
V31 ESC add these features:
* "Gas Mode" selection under RPM Control section. No RPM control is engaged in this case, but spool up on first start is very soft, to spare main gear from damage.
* HV ESC have ACCELERATION DELAY settings added, to avoid stalling motor when throttle is advanced very quickly with large props and high voltage batteries.
All the Hyperion brushless controllers have a rich set of programming features which can be set either by stick commands from your transmitter, via the programming interface in the Hyperion Emeter, or by Hyperion PC Cable and software.
Our ESC processor is a well-proven type, and the software is the result of nearly four years of refinement and testing. The result is extremely smooth motor starts, no matter the motor type, and high efficiency at all throttle positions.
We include a receiver switch (as seen in picture right) on the Titan BEC controllers of 50A and higher. There are times when the battery cannot be immediately disconnected after a flight, or a flight started right after connecting the battery. Especially for larger models, the switch is a safety advantage, as keeping it off insures that no one else on the same frequency will inadvertently start your motor. NOTE: The switch is NOT intended to allow switching off and then back on to fly the model a second time. It in ONLY to keep others from operating your model before you can remove the battery. ALWAYS REMOVE THE BATTERY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AFTER A FLIGHT. BEC switches (all controller brands) cannot disconnect the controller from main flight pack; they only disconnect power to your receiver. While main flight pack is connected to the controller a small current draw always exists, even with BEC switch off. This will cause your battery to completely discharge if left connected, and that will very likely damage the battery.
MANUAL CORRECTION : Due to an early miscommunication with our engineers, TITAN manuals have always stated a max electrical rpm of 100,000 under RPM Control. In fact, the actual electrical rpm are much higher. See test data here.
The Z30 motor test best shows the actual max electrical rpm available with TITAN ESC under RPM Control, and with rpm control OFF.
NOTE: Newer TITAN ESC, such as 12S HV and any ESC with V3 firmware, will require Emeter firmware upgrade installed, in order to program the ESC with Emeter v1. See Emeter v1 firmware updates page HERE
, for latest version firmware.
MANUALS below are in Adobe Acrobat Format
Note: Manuals are for newest versions of TITAN ESC. Your ESC may not have the same specifications or default settings, depending on type of ESC and/or date of purchase.
V31 MANUALS
MANUAL: TITAN 10A to 30A V31 Standard BEC
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 50A and 80A V31 Standard BEC and OPTO
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 35A to 80A V31
PSW
Types (Cool Switching BEC onboard)
MANUAL: TITAN HV V31 85A and 90A 10S and 12S
types
MANUAL: TITAN HV V31 85A and 90A 12S with TI-WARN
V3 MANUALS
MANUAL: TITAN 10A to 80A V3 Standard BEC and OPTO
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 35A V3 PSW3
(Cool Switching BEC, TITAN WARNING LED) V2 MANUALS
MANUAL: TITAN 10A to 80A V2 Standard BEC and OPTO
Types
MANUAL: TITAN 50A and 80A V2 PSB
(Cool Switching BEC onboard)
MANUAL: TITAN HV V2 85A and 90A 10S and 12S
types
See General Guide for Motor/Controller installation here
.
See this page
on programming the Titan with the Hyperion Emeter, or with with the Hyperion PC Software.
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..., για να δω τωρα ...
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...., και το Esc
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...άλλο εαν τελικα το μετατρέψαμε σε θερμικο με 24-αρι Os και πεταει "κουκουλι"!
Νιτρακηδες γαρ... !@/-=}{{
Νιτρακηδες γαρ... !@/-=}{{
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tanfoglio έγραψε: ↑Βλέπω ξύλινη έλικα και το μοτέρ είναι ηλεκτρικό! Δεν έχεις πρόβλημα με τέτοιο μικρό μοτέρ? Δώσε μας λίγα στοιχεία....
Γιώργος
Δεν εχει κανενα προβλημα, το μοτερ ειναι κινεζικο αγορασμενο απο ebay και esc 40A, το μοτερ βγαζει μετρημενο 320 watt σε full γκαζι και καταναλωση γυρω στα 25A και τελος η μπαταρια 3s 3300mah Hyperion απο διαρκεια δεν ξερω ακομα αλλα πιστευω γυρω στο 20 λεπτο να πεταω.
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Φίλε Savas πολύ καλή δουλειά. Γράφει ωραία στην κάμερα...! '!'!'αλλά ακόμη καλύτερα στον αέρα.
Μου φαίνεται θα σου δώσω και το δικό μου, να το μαζέψεις λίγο. wow
Για αρχή θα βγάλω αυτό το "0" που έχω βάλει στο πλάϊ, για να ξεχωρίζουμε το δικό μου απο το δικό σου.
Εκεί ψηλά δε θα φαίνεται τίποτα ούτως η άλλως.
Θα μου φτιάξεις λίγο το cowl, τα σκέλη (Ξέρεις τα πλαινά, που μου έφυγαν απο την πρώτη "επιτυχημένη" προσγείωση... τι άλλο...;)
Ααααα... και το καπάκι το μαύρο για το μοτέρ! ...Αυτά.
Μέχρι την Πέμπτη που θα γυρίσω απο τη Μυτιλήνη, θα το έχεις τελειώσει.
Τι λές ?
>:D
Μου φαίνεται θα σου δώσω και το δικό μου, να το μαζέψεις λίγο. wow
Για αρχή θα βγάλω αυτό το "0" που έχω βάλει στο πλάϊ, για να ξεχωρίζουμε το δικό μου απο το δικό σου.
Εκεί ψηλά δε θα φαίνεται τίποτα ούτως η άλλως.
Θα μου φτιάξεις λίγο το cowl, τα σκέλη (Ξέρεις τα πλαινά, που μου έφυγαν απο την πρώτη "επιτυχημένη" προσγείωση... τι άλλο...;)
Ααααα... και το καπάκι το μαύρο για το μοτέρ! ...Αυτά.
Μέχρι την Πέμπτη που θα γυρίσω απο τη Μυτιλήνη, θα το έχεις τελειώσει.
Τι λές ?
>:D
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Γεια σενα φιλε μου, θα κανω ειδικη τιμη........!!!!!!!
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Καλό βρε παιδιά, αλλά η ξύλινη έλικα θα είναι πρόβλημα! Και όταν λέω πρόβλημα εννοώ βάρους και τίποτα άλλου. Και βάρος στα ηλεκτρικά σημαίνει ένα μόνο πράγμα...Λιγότερος χρόνος πτήσης!
Οι επιλογές βέβαια είναι προσωπικές....
Γιώργος
Οι επιλογές βέβαια είναι προσωπικές....
Γιώργος
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tanfoglio έγραψε: ↑Καλό βρε παιδιά, αλλά η ξύλινη έλικα θα είναι πρόβλημα! Και όταν λέω πρόβλημα εννοώ βάρους και τίποτα άλλου. Και βάρος στα ηλεκτρικά σημαίνει ένα μόνο πράγμα...Λιγότερος χρόνος πτήσης!
Οι επιλογές βέβαια είναι προσωπικές....
Γιώργος
Φιλε μου το αεροπλανο ζυγιζει μολις 1,3 κιλα με την 3s 3300 και με την 2200 1,2 κιλα. Η εταιρια το δινει ετοιμο για πτηση 1,4 αν δεν κανω λαθος.
Οποτε νομιζω δεν υπαρχει προβλημα βαρους.
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Μερικες φωτο απο την σημερινη εξορμηση με τον φιλο και φωτογραφο Friday.
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